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Two Computers with Two MobileMe Accounts
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:58 pm 
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This may seem like a funny request, but I am creating a web site for a friend on my computer (and on my MobileMe account), but I intend to transfer it to his computer (and his MobileMe account) when it is completed.

I am familiar with the transfer of the Domain files (and the allowing of permission so that he can edit it) - this is not a problem.

I am worried about transferring the site from one MobileMe account to another. Once I load up the Domain file on his computer, will iWeb automatically change the MobileMe account to his or will it continue to try to publish the site via my mobileMe account. Any help on this would be great.

Also, I am running iWeb 08; he is running iWeb 09. Will this create any problems? Should I upgrade to avoid problems?

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Hi,

That shouldn't be a problem.

When he opens the domain file for the first time it will be updated to iWeb '09. In the settings (hitting the main-site on the top of the left-sided pages list) he will have to enter his MobileMe account as the publishing destination and that should be it.

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Cheers,

I will give it a try and see how it goes,

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Hi,

first of all Im glad I found your site. You made your homework - thanks for sharing! There is a lot possible with iWeb it seems, but you have to dig deep and there are a lot of myths out there... so everyone is afraid of trying stuff out and taking the risk of loosing hard work/ already working websites.

I basically want to build on this topic: two computers, two mobilme accounts:

I have a running website (lots of content, lots of work) build with iWeb, published through my mobilme account.

A client saw it, he wants me to build a site for him, too. He has his own mobilme account and iWeb, so it should not be such a problem.

However I want to build his site on my computer, test it (through my mobil me account) and then transfer it to his computer and finally publish it on his mobilme account. So far so good.

Here is my plan and please tell me if Im running any risks here:

1. Back Up my iWeb = copy the files in admin->Library->Application Support->iWeb-> (Domain with 1.46GB, there is a second one called Domain1.sites with 12kb)

2. After the back up I take the Domain Files out of the iWeb folder. Now when I start iWeb, it should be empty for a fresh start.

3. Build client's website... NOW: what is happening in this mean-time? Is my website down for this time? Is it getting replaced by the new one I build?

4. Once the client's website is done I transfer the new Domain files to his computer and publish it - as you wrote, this should not be a problem (watch out for permissions, got it).

5. I copy my backup back into my iWeb folder (erase the client's one) ... do I have to republish my whole site now? Is there danger that my own site will not work and look as before?

(also - slight different question, but in context: it seems content that I take out when I edit my iWeb site is still stored on my mobilme, which I use to publish my site. Does that mean Im basically collecting all my trash there, but loose track of it, because more or less the stuff is a file package? When Im testing the client's site, does all his content stay on my mobilme account...?)

I have a ton of questions more, but lets start with this :)

thanks so much

daniel


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Actually it would be Apple's homework, not mine, but since they don't do it I did it.

1. Right

2. Right (Just take the Domain out of the folder, no need to trash it. You then can rename the new domain file to something else and put yours back. You can switch among them by double-clicking them to open iWeb with one project or another).

3. This is up to you. By default iWeb names a website "Site" and when it is published to MobileMe (or anywhere else) you get an index.html file and a folder called "Site" (iDisk/Web/Sites). The index.html file outside the folder is responsible to redirect people to the files inside the folder.

Now if your website is called "Site" and the website of your client is called "Site" then yours will be overwritten. If your website is called "Site" and your clients website is called "Client" then your website will not (maybe should not) get overwritten. Only the index.html file outside of the folders will get overwritten.

Replace the index.html file leading to your client's website with your index.html (perhaps make a backup of it before you publish your client's website then replace it). And your website will be reachable again.

Your client's site will be reachable too but you would have to type-in yourodmain.com/Client/ to reach it (yourdomain.com=web.me.com/username/)

4. Right (also check the preferences to avoid the website being still published to your MobileMe account after you transferred it to his computer)

5. As of 2. you could also keep both. As of 3. it depends on you whether the site is replaced/overwritten or not. Of course if you choose to overwrite it you will have to re-publish all. Otherwise only replace the index.html file outside. Then trash your clients site.

There should be no danger. Just have a backup of your Domain file somewhere in case anything should go wrong (which shouldn't happen in 99% of the cases).

6. Content you took out from iWeb is still stored on MobileMe as far as I know yes (I never used MobileMe and I don't like it). Reason: iWeb only Uploads new/changed files. It doesn't synchronize MobileMe with your iWeb.

You're collecting trash on MobileMe. But the files are removed from your Domain file hence from your computer.
Of course if you test his site on your account it will be uploaded to your account.To remove your client's site go to iDisk/Web/Sites and trash his site and empty trash.

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thanks so much. That brings in some light. Ill try it and let you know how it's going...

yes, this should be very much apples job, but their service is really lacking - Im on apple for years and years, but I dont like how their development is heading: trying to reach out to the masses, but then being overwhelmed with support...

also 99% when I call them they have no clue about their own products. sad, because I was always an apple fan.

Im grateful for your help and I will write an email to apple that you exist... thats the least I can do.

where are you located? I want to introduce you to some other stuff, too...

daniel


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danielwehr wrote:
where are you located? I want to introduce you to some other stuff, too...


Location: Basel, Switzerland

I see quite some visits coming from Apple/Apple's Networks (past 30 days):
Attachment:
Apple.tiff
Apple.tiff [ 29.15 KiB | Viewed 2532 times ]


Indeed Apple has some problems with the way they provide support for their products.

They even got a tutorial video for iWeb wrong:
http://www.apple.com/ilife/tutorials/#iweb-mobileme
They suggest to enter the URL as the Site name resulting in the ugly repeating
yourdomain.com/yourdomain.com/PageName.html
URL instead of
yourdomain.com/site/PageName.html
or similar which looks much better.

I'm on Mac since the Macintosh Classic long time ago.

Do you have an e-mail address of Apple where they answer e-mail they get?

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cool. Im in LA, but spent most of my life in Germany...

I had some emails from apple to higher positions, but I gave up. Its not worth fighting this giant. And they hardly write back or take you seriously anyway...

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I hope you don't mind coming back to this topic. It seems you'd know exactly what I need.

I have iWeb08 and 4 websites built under my Mobile Me account. One website is my brother's and I want to hand it over to him. My understanding is that I should do the following:

Library>Application Support>iWeb>Domain

Copy the Domain and send it to him and it will open effortlessly on his iWeb (not sure what version).

However, I have ALL 4 websites under 1 domain. I set these all up so long ago, I'm not even sure what that means as I have to learn as I go. I use GoDaddy and I did the whole "CName" thing so we could have our own domain name, but they are under my one mobile Me account.

What is the easiest way for my brother to get his ONE website onto his iWeb using his own Mobile Me? Do I have to set any sharing settings re: GoDaddy? I have a family pack of Mobile Me. He will be using one of them for his own website (Frank's Mobile Me). Would I need to change his website to publish to Frank's Mobile Me before I send him the Domain?

And lastly, I tried to upload the Domain to my iDisk to share with him, but it gives me an error each time. How can I best send him this Domain? (He's across the country).

Lots of questions, I hope I'm clear. Thank you in advance for any advice. I truly appreciate it.

Stephanie


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Hi Stephanie,

close iWeb, duplicate the Domain file, double-click one of the Domain files for iWeb to open and delete all sites except your brother's site. Then close iWeb, double-click the other Domain file and delete your brother's site. You end up having two Domain files. One with your brother's site and one with your sites.

To send the Domain file to your brother I would recommend you to use Dropbox. More info on Dropbox in my Two computers FAQ. Remember to change permissions as described in my Two computers and my Transfer website FAQ before sending it.

Your brother will have to set where the site has to publish to in his System preferences.

Note: If you have iWeb '08 and he has iWeb '06 he will not be able to open the site. He will have to have iWeb '08 or '09.

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